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File:Pomona grabber1.jpg|<small>Pomona Grabber, side 1</small> | File:Pomona grabber1.jpg|<small>Pomona Grabber, side 1</small> | ||
File:Pomona grabber2.jpg|<small>Pomona Grabber, side 2</small> | File:Pomona grabber2.jpg|<small>Pomona Grabber, side 2</small> | ||
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==== Universal-Chip Clip TSOP/MSOP/SSOP/TSSOP/SOIC/SOP ==== | |||
These are noname probes with gripper hooks that are available from AliExpress, e.g. [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Universal-chip-clip-TSOP-MSOP-SSOP-TSSOP-SOIC-SOP-Car-Remote-Control-key-IC-Pin-clip/32615203653.html here], [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Universal-small-chip-clip-chip-PIN-clamping-test-clamping-General-IC-Logic-Analyzer-foot-burn-clips/32777804481.html here], or [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Universal-chip-clip-TSOP-MSOP-SSOP-TSSOP-SOIC-SOP-car-remote-control-key-IC-pin-clip/32537624614.html here]. | |||
They're slightly better than the ultra-cheap [[Probe_comparison#Low-end_probes|low-end probes]] and can probe smaller-pitch devices. Opening the hook requires quite a bit of force and gets tedious after a while. They're larger and bulkier than e.g. the [[Probe_comparison#E-Z-Hook_X2015|EZ-Hook X2015]] and cannot probe small-pitch devices as easily as X2015 can (see also photos). | |||
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File:Universal chip clip package top.jpg|<small>Package, top</small> | |||
File:Universal chip clip package bottom.jpg|<small>Package, bottom</small> | |||
File:Universal chip clip connector.jpg|<small>Connector</small> | |||
File:Universal chip clip gripper hook.jpg|<small>Gripper hook</small> | |||
File:Universal chip clip gripper hook2.jpg|<small>Gripper hook, open</small> | |||
File:Universal chip clip example normal.jpg|<small>Example</small> | |||
File:Universal chip clip example zoomed.jpg|<small>Example, zoomed</small> | |||
File:Universal chip clip comparison ezhook x2015 normal.jpg|<small>Comparison to X2015</small> | |||
File:Universal chip clip comparison ezhook x2015 zoomed.jpg|<small>Comparison to X2015, zoomed</small> | |||
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File:Electro pjp 6800 gripper.jpg|<small>Gripper</small> | File:Electro pjp 6800 gripper.jpg|<small>Gripper</small> | ||
File:Probes highend.jpg|<small>Electro-PJP MS 6800, red</small> | File:Probes highend.jpg|<small>Electro-PJP MS 6800, red</small> | ||
File:Ssop-25mil-probing.png|<small>25mil / 0.65mm pitch probing</small> | |||
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File:Ezhook x2015 red2.jpg|<small>X2015, red 2</small> | File:Ezhook x2015 red2.jpg|<small>X2015, red 2</small> | ||
File:Ezhook x2015 gripper.jpg|<small>Gripper</small> | File:Ezhook x2015 gripper.jpg|<small>Gripper</small> | ||
File:Ezhook_x2015_lqfp_0_5mm.jpg|<small>LQFP 0.5mm pitch example</small> | |||
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File:Mechano FP-2S and FP-5 back.jpg|<small>FP-2S and FP-5, back</small> | File:Mechano FP-2S and FP-5 back.jpg|<small>FP-2S and FP-5, back</small> | ||
File:Mechano FP-2S and FP-5 grabbers.jpg|<small>FP-2S and FP-5, grabbers</small> | File:Mechano FP-2S and FP-5 grabbers.jpg|<small>FP-2S and FP-5, grabbers</small> | ||
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=== Needles === | |||
==== Hirschmann Mikro-Pruef MPS-2 ==== | |||
The [http://www.newark.com/hirschmann-testmeasurement/973995100/probe-test-micro-black-mln/dp/67C8522 Hirschmann Mikro-Pruef MPS-2] spring-loaded needles can be used to easily probe PCB vias. | |||
They're useful for usage with logic analyzers as well as multimeters via [http://www.newark.com/hirschmann-testmeasurement/932959001/test-lead-kit/dp/92K8202 certain test leads]. | |||
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File:Hirschmann mps-2 needles.jpg|<small>Spring-loaded needles</small> | |||
File:Hirschmann mps-2 via.jpg|<small>Via</small> | |||
File:Hirschmann mps-2 vias.jpg|<small>Vias</small> | |||
File:Hirschmann mps-2 test leads.jpg|<small>Test leads</small> | |||
File:Hirschmann mps-2 logic analyzer.jpg|<small>LA + needles</small> | |||
File:Hirschmann mps-2 dmm.jpg|<small>DMM + needles</small> | |||
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[[Category:Device | == DIY probes == | ||
The [http://essentialscrap.com/probe/ SMD probe for multimeter] project at the essentialscrap site discusses the construction of a fine pitch probe for multimeters and logic analyzers, some hand held, others kind of self supporting for longer term use of a few probes at the same time without manual attention. The article also contains the [http://www.cromwell-intl.com/radio/probes.html How to Build Your Own Oscilloscope Probes] link. | |||
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Latest revision as of 13:39, 3 July 2020
Logic analyzer probes
There are many logic analyzer probes of varying quality and price on the market (see photo for a small subset).
Low-end probes
There are various simple and cheap logic analyzer probes available from various sources. Some logic analyzers are also shipped with this kind of probes out of the box.
They're generally not recommended, if you can avoid them. They're usually of low quality, break/bend/fail relatively quickly, and cannot be easily used to probe finer-pitch devices/pins. Probes 1 and 2 (see photos) also have the additional disadvantage that they're hardwired/soldered directly to a custom logic analyzer cable, which means they cannot be easily replaced, swapped, or removed and used for other purposes (which is possible with the other probes). See below for better alternatives.
Sometimes you can also replace the probes shipped with your device by a better-quality cable/probe set, e.g. in the case of the RockyLogic Ant8 probe cable (see photos).
Quality probes
The better-quality (and minimum recommended, in our opinion) probe type is the EZ-Hook. This type of probe is of sufficient quality, doesn't break too easily, and the grabber is small enough to probe most fine-pitch devices one usually encounters in day-to-day probing.
The Agilent probes (shipped with some Agilent oscilloscopes with integrated logic analyzer) seem to be exactly the same as the EZ-Hooks. They're probably merely rebranded for Agilent (just a guess).
The Tektronix probes are different, but of similarly good quality as the EZ-Hooks.
The ZEROPLUS probes seem to be custom-made by/for ZEROPLUS and are of similarly good quality, too (only one pin where you can attach, though; most other probe types usually have two).
Saleae used to deliver EZ-Hooks with the Saleae Logic; currently at least the Saleae Logic16 comes with a cheaper copy. The Link Instruments MSO-19 comes with the same probes (in different colors).
Pomona Grabber
The Pomona Grabber probes seem of similarly good quality (and also have only one pin where you can attach).
Universal-Chip Clip TSOP/MSOP/SSOP/TSSOP/SOIC/SOP
These are noname probes with gripper hooks that are available from AliExpress, e.g. here, here, or here.
They're slightly better than the ultra-cheap low-end probes and can probe smaller-pitch devices. Opening the hook requires quite a bit of force and gets tedious after a while. They're larger and bulkier than e.g. the EZ-Hook X2015 and cannot probe small-pitch devices as easily as X2015 can (see also photos).
High-end probes
There are of course also various higher-end, special-purpose probes which are much more expensive. They allow for probing much smaller pitch devices, for example.
TPI NC1 series
The Test Products International (TPI) NC1 is a series of micro test clips.
Where to buy:
Vendor | Device | Comments | Price |
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Digikey | TPI NC1B | Black | €7.30 |
Digikey | TPI NC1BLUE | Blue | €8.59 |
Digikey | TPI NC1Y | Yellow | €8.59 |
Digikey | TPI NC1GY | Gray | €8.59 |
Digikey | TPI NC1R | Red | €8.59 |
Digikey | TPI NC1G | Green | €8.59 |
ElectroPJP 6800 / Pomona 72902
Products:
- Electro-PJP 6800: Micro pincer clip w/ 0.8 mm (0.031") (male) pin
- Electro-PJP 6800-6: Kit, 6 clips + 3 holding rods + 6 leads
- Pomona 72902 (various products)
Where to buy:
Vendor | Device | Comments | Price |
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Reichelt | Electro-PJP CLIP 6800 RT "Challenger-clip" | One probe, red | €6.55 |
Reichelt | Electro-PJP MS 6800-6 | Set of 6 probes, 3 holding rods, 6 cables | €48.95 |
Reichelt | Electro-PJP MS 6800-8 | Set of 8 probes, 4 holding rods, 8 cables | €63.85 |
Reichelt | Electro-PJP MS 6800-12 | Set of 12 probes, 6 holding rods, 12 cables | €86.45 |
Digikey | Pomona 72902-0 | One probe, black | €11.69 |
Digikey | Pomona 72902-2 | One probe, red | €11.69 |
Digikey | Pomona 72902 | Kit | €179.97 |
E-Z-Hook X2015
The E-Z-Hook X2015 micro double-hook.
Mechano Japan FP-2S
The Mechano Japan FP-2S micro test clips (microgrippers) are suitable for ICs with a pitch of 0.50mm—0.20mm. They're available from various vendors under different names.
Vendor | Device | Comments | Price |
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ChipQuik | ChipQuik Microgripper FP-2S-2 | 2 micro-grippers, 2 wires. | $79.00 |
Digikey | ChipQuik SMDFP-2S-2 | 2 micro-grippers, 2 wires. Datasheet. | €80.56 |
Distrelec | PMK FP-2S-2 | 2 micro-grippers, 2 wires. Datasheet. | €90.28 |
Emulation Technology | Emulation Technology MicroGripper FP-2S-2 | 2 micro-grippers, 2 wires. Datasheet. | $74.72 |
PEWA | PMK FP-2S-2 QFP IC-Clip | 2 micro-grippers, 2 wires. Datasheet. | €73.00 |
PMK | PMK SMDFP-2S-2 | 2 micro-grippers, 2 wires | €80.56 |
Mechano Japan FP-5 (FP-2B)
The Mechano Japan FP-5 (a.k.a FP-2B) micro test clips (microgrippers) are suitable for ICs with a pitch of 1.00mm—0.30mm. They're available from various vendors under different names.
Needles
Hirschmann Mikro-Pruef MPS-2
The Hirschmann Mikro-Pruef MPS-2 spring-loaded needles can be used to easily probe PCB vias.
They're useful for usage with logic analyzers as well as multimeters via certain test leads.
Probe comparison
Logic analyzer adapters
Attaching "normal" logic analyzer probes directly to the system you want to analyze is not always the easiest method. For specific use-cases there are also special "sniffer" or "breakout" boards that can be used.
Micro SD sniffer
SD sniffer
USB sniffer
PCI sniffer
Nintendo Wii Nunchuk sniffer
Oscilloscope probes
Low-end probes
There are various cheap oscilloscope probes which are shipped with many PC/USB oscilloscopes and also some standalone bench scopes.
The two major manufacturers seem to be:
- Globaltone
- Models: P6020, P6040, P6060, P6100, P6200, ...
- Globaltone AliExpress.com store
- Protek (TODO: URL?)
TODO: Photos
DIY probes
The SMD probe for multimeter project at the essentialscrap site discusses the construction of a fine pitch probe for multimeters and logic analyzers, some hand held, others kind of self supporting for longer term use of a few probes at the same time without manual attention. The article also contains the How to Build Your Own Oscilloscope Probes link.