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{{Infobox logic analyzer
{{Infobox logic analyzer
| image            = [[File:xl-logic16-100m-external.jpg|180px]]
| image            = [[File:Noname xl logic16 100m mugshot.png|180px]]
| name            = Noname XL-LOGIC16-100M
| name            = Noname XL-LOGIC16-100M
| status          = planned
| status          = in progress
| source_code_dir  =  
| source_code_dir  = saleae-logic16
| channels        = 3/6/9/16
| channels        = 3/6/9/16
| samplerate      = 100/50/32/16MHz
| samplerate      = 100/50/32/16MHz
| samplerate_state = —
| samplerate_state = —
| triggers        = ?
| triggers        = none (SW-only)
| voltages        = ?
| voltages        = -0.9V — 6V
| threshold        = ?
| threshold        = configurable:<br />for 1.8V to 3.6V systems: V<sub>IH</sub>=1.4V, V<sub>IL</sub>=0.7V<br />for 5V systems: V<sub>IH</sub>=3.6V, V<sub>IL</sub>=1.4V
| memory          = ?
| memory          = none
| compression      = ?
| compression      = yes
| website          = [http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Saleae-Logic16-Saleae16-100MHz-logic-analyzer-real-USB-interface-V2/1399553156.html aliexpress.com]
| price            = $30 - $35
| website          = [http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-Saleae-24MHz-8Channels-Logic-Analyzer-Fully-Checked-Best-quality-Input-buffered/1731200392.html aliexpress.com]
}}
}}


The '''XL-LOGIC16-100M''' is a USB-based, 16-channel logic analyzer with up to 100MHz sampling rate. It is labelled and sold as a [[Saleae Logic16]] Clone, and comes with "modified" Saleae Logic software on a cdrom.  The existing Saleae Logic16 support in sigrok detects this device as an original, but fails to initialize the FPGA for capture. (at the time of writing)
The '''Noname  XL-LOGIC16-100M''' is a USB-based, 16-channel logic analyzer with up to 100MHz sampling rate.


See [[XL-LOGIC16-100M/Info]] for more details (such as '''lsusb -v''' output) about the device. (if ever desired)
It is labelled and sold as a [[Saleae Logic16]] clone, and comes with "modified" Saleae Logic software on a CD-ROM.


See [[Noname XL-LOGIC16-100M/Info]] for more details (such as '''lsusb -v''' output) about the device.
== Variants in same case ==
The 2015-1-8 version of the [[Mcupro_Logic16_clone]] comes in the same case as this device.  Unlike this device, the mcupro version works with sigrok!


== Hardware ==
== Hardware ==
A single phillips head screw holds the case together.  The parts selection seem to be almost identical to the [[WayEngineer_Saleae16]] but that page doesn't have any internal photos for full comparison.


Most notable are the complete lack of test points or programming headers! There are some unpopulated resistor/capacitor pairs on the backside,
A single Phillips head screw holds the case together. Most notable are the complete lack of test points or programming headers! There are some unpopulated resistor/capacitor pairs on the backside.


* '''FPGA''': [http://www.xilinx.com/support/index.html/content/xilinx/en/supportNav/silicon_devices/fpga/spartan-3a.html Xilinx Spartan-3A XC3S200A], 200K gates ([http://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/data_sheets/ds529.pdf datasheeet])
* '''FPGA''': [http://www.xilinx.com/support/index.html/content/xilinx/en/supportNav/silicon_devices/fpga/spartan-3a.html Xilinx Spartan-3A XC3S200A], 200K gates ([http://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/data_sheets/ds529.pdf datasheeet])
* '''USB interface chip''': [http://www.cypress.com/?mpn=CY7C68013A-56PVXC Cypress CY7C68013A-56PVXC (FX2LP)] ([http://www.cypress.com/?docID=34060 datasheet])
* '''USB interface chip''': [http://www.cypress.com/?mpn=CY7C68013A-56PVXC Cypress CY7C68013A-56PVXC (FX2LP)] ([http://www.cypress.com/?docID=34060 datasheet])
* '''I2C EEPROM''': 2Kbit [http://www.atmel.com/devices/AT24C02B.aspx Atmel 24C02B] (markings: "ATMEL317 24C02BN SU27 D") ([http://www.atmel.com/Images/doc5126.pdf datasheet])
* '''I2C EEPROM''': 2Kbit [http://www.atmel.com/devices/AT24C02B.aspx Atmel 24C02B] (markings: "ATMEL317 24C02BN SU27 D") ([http://www.atmel.com/Images/doc5126.pdf datasheet])
* '''16-Bit 2.5V to 3.3V/3.3V to 5V level shifting transceiver with 3-state outputs''': [http://www.ti.com/product/SN74ALVC164245 TI SN74ALVC164245] ([http://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/sn74alvc164245 datasheet])
* '''3.3V voltage regulator''': [http://www.advanced-monolithic.com/products/voltreg.html#1117 Advanced Monolithic Systems AMS1117-3.3] ([http://ams-semitech.com/attachments/File/AMS1117_20120314.pdf datasheet], [http://www.advanced-monolithic.com/pdf/ds1117.pdf older datasheet])
* '''3.3V voltage regulator''': [http://www.advanced-monolithic.com/products/voltreg.html#1117 Advanced Monolithic Systems AMS1117-3.3] ([http://ams-semitech.com/attachments/File/AMS1117_20120314.pdf datasheet], [http://www.advanced-monolithic.com/pdf/ds1117.pdf older datasheet])
* '''1.2V voltage regulator''': [http://www.advanced-monolithic.com/products/voltreg.html#1117 Advanced Monolithic Systems AMS1117-1.2] ([http://ams-semitech.com/attachments/File/AMS1117_20120314.pdf datasheet], [http://www.advanced-monolithic.com/pdf/ds1117.pdf older datasheet])
* '''1.2V voltage regulator''': [http://www.advanced-monolithic.com/products/voltreg.html#1117 Advanced Monolithic Systems AMS1117-1.2] ([http://ams-semitech.com/attachments/File/AMS1117_20120314.pdf datasheet], [http://www.advanced-monolithic.com/pdf/ds1117.pdf older datasheet])
* '''Crystal:''' 24.000
* '''Crystal:''' 24.000


Three LEDs, USB (green) COM (blue) and RUN (red) are on the board.
Three LEDs (USB/green, COM/blue, and RUN/red) are on the board.
 
== Photos ==


<gallery>
File:Noname xl logic16 100m package.jpg
File:Noname xl logic16 100m device top.jpg
File:Noname xl logic16 100m device bottom.jpg
File:Noname xl logic16 100m device usb.jpg
File:Noname xl logic16 100m device connector.jpg
File:Noname xl logic16 100m pcb top.jpg
File:Noname xl logic16 100m pcb bottom.jpg
File:Noname xl logic16 100m xilinx spartan xc3s200a.jpg
File:Noname xl logic16 100m cypress fx2lp.jpg
File:Noname xl logic16 100m ti alvc164245.jpg
File:Noname xl logic16 100m atmel 24c02bn.jpg
File:Noname xl logic16 100m v05.jpg
File:Noname xl logic16 100m ams1117 33.jpg
File:Noname xl logic16 100m ams1117 12.jpg
</gallery>


== Photos ==
'''Photos from another unit:'''


<gallery>
<gallery>
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File:xl-logic16-100m-pcb-top.jpg
File:xl-logic16-100m-pcb-top.jpg
File:xl-logic16-100m-pcb-bottom.jpg
File:xl-logic16-100m-pcb-bottom.jpg
</gallery>
'''Photos from yet another unit (with JTAG and other resistor values):'''
<gallery>
File:Xl-logic16-100m-v2-external.jpg
File:Xl-logic16-100m-v2-top.jpg
File:Xl-logic16-100m-v2-bottom.jpg
</gallery>
'''Photos from yet another unit (with black case):'''
<gallery>
File:Xl logic16 100m black device top.jpg
File:Xl logic16 100m black pcb top.jpg
File:Xl logic16 100m black pcb bottom.jpg
</gallery>
</gallery>


== Firmware ==
== Firmware ==


=== Firmware and FPGA bitstream usage ===
You can use the [http://sigrok.org/gitweb/?p=sigrok-util.git;a=tree;f=firmware/saleae-logic16 sigrok-fwextract-saleae-logic16] tool to extract (from the "Logic" Linux binary) the FX2 firmware and the FPGA bitstreams, exactly [[Saleae Logic16|as for a real Saleae Logic16]]. Note, the md5sum of the FX2 firmware is identical to the original Saleae firmware, but the FPGA bitstreams are different. Attempting to connect to this device with the "modified" FPGA bitstream, which _works_ with the vendor supplied "modified" Logic software fails to load in sigrok, with a FPGA version mismatch. The FX2 firmware loads successfully, at least in as much as the LED blinks a heartbeat pattern as expected.
 
You can use the [http://sigrok.org/gitweb/?p=sigrok-util.git;a=tree;f=firmware/saleae-logic16 sigrok-fwextract-saleae-logic16] tool to extract (from the "Logic" Linux binary) the FX2 firmware and the FPGA bitstreams, exactly [[Saleae_Logic16 | as for a real Logic 16]]. Note, the md5sum of the fx2 firmware is identical to the original Saleae firmware, but the fpga bitstreams are different. Attempting to connect to this device with the "modified" fpga bitstream, which _works_ with the vendor supplied "modified" Logic software fails to load in sigrok, with a FPGA version mismatch. The fx2 firmware loads successfully, at least in as much as the LED blinks a heartbeat pattern as expected.


Update: July 4, 2015: marcus_c has written some open source fpga bitstream for spartan based logic16s, and _this_ bitstream does work with this device.  However, at this time, binaries are not available.  See [https://github.com/zeldin/logic16_bitstream] for the source.
Update: September 3, 2015 blight has an alternative open source fpga bitstream.  It also works.  See [https://github.com/gregani/la16fw] for both source and binaries


== Protocol ==
== Protocol ==


Presumably as per [[Saleae_Logic16 | Logic16]]
See [[Saleae Logic16#Protocol]].


== Resources ==
== Resources ==


 
* Random aliexpress.com vendors: [http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-Saleae-24MHz-8Channels-Logic-Analyzer-Fully-Checked-Best-quality-Input-buffered/1731200392.html vendor1], [http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Saleae-logic16-USB-100MHz-Real-Time-Logic-Analyzers/1856825810.html vendor2]


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Latest revision as of 14:35, 30 June 2019

Noname XL-LOGIC16-100M
Noname xl logic16 100m mugshot.png
Status in progress
Source code saleae-logic16
Channels 3/6/9/16
Samplerate 100/50/32/16MHz
Samplerate (state) —
Triggers none (SW-only)
Min/max voltage -0.9V — 6V
Threshold voltage configurable:
for 1.8V to 3.6V systems: VIH=1.4V, VIL=0.7V
for 5V systems: VIH=3.6V, VIL=1.4V
Memory none
Compression yes
Price range $30 - $35
Website aliexpress.com

The Noname XL-LOGIC16-100M is a USB-based, 16-channel logic analyzer with up to 100MHz sampling rate.

It is labelled and sold as a Saleae Logic16 clone, and comes with "modified" Saleae Logic software on a CD-ROM.

See Noname XL-LOGIC16-100M/Info for more details (such as lsusb -v output) about the device.

Variants in same case

The 2015-1-8 version of the Mcupro_Logic16_clone comes in the same case as this device. Unlike this device, the mcupro version works with sigrok!

Hardware

A single Phillips head screw holds the case together. Most notable are the complete lack of test points or programming headers! There are some unpopulated resistor/capacitor pairs on the backside.

Three LEDs (USB/green, COM/blue, and RUN/red) are on the board.

Photos

  • Noname xl logic16 100m package.jpg
  • Noname xl logic16 100m device top.jpg
  • Noname xl logic16 100m device bottom.jpg
  • Noname xl logic16 100m device usb.jpg
  • Noname xl logic16 100m device connector.jpg
  • Noname xl logic16 100m pcb top.jpg
  • Noname xl logic16 100m pcb bottom.jpg
  • Noname xl logic16 100m xilinx spartan xc3s200a.jpg
  • Noname xl logic16 100m cypress fx2lp.jpg
  • Noname xl logic16 100m ti alvc164245.jpg
  • Noname xl logic16 100m atmel 24c02bn.jpg
  • Noname xl logic16 100m v05.jpg
  • Noname xl logic16 100m ams1117 33.jpg
  • Noname xl logic16 100m ams1117 12.jpg

Photos from another unit:

  • Xl-logic16-100m-external.jpg
  • Xl-logic16-100m-pcb-top.jpg
  • Xl-logic16-100m-pcb-bottom.jpg

Photos from yet another unit (with JTAG and other resistor values):

  • Xl-logic16-100m-v2-external.jpg
  • Xl-logic16-100m-v2-top.jpg
  • Xl-logic16-100m-v2-bottom.jpg

Photos from yet another unit (with black case):

  • Xl logic16 100m black device top.jpg
  • Xl logic16 100m black pcb top.jpg
  • Xl logic16 100m black pcb bottom.jpg

Firmware

You can use the sigrok-fwextract-saleae-logic16 tool to extract (from the "Logic" Linux binary) the FX2 firmware and the FPGA bitstreams, exactly as for a real Saleae Logic16. Note, the md5sum of the FX2 firmware is identical to the original Saleae firmware, but the FPGA bitstreams are different. Attempting to connect to this device with the "modified" FPGA bitstream, which _works_ with the vendor supplied "modified" Logic software fails to load in sigrok, with a FPGA version mismatch. The FX2 firmware loads successfully, at least in as much as the LED blinks a heartbeat pattern as expected.

Update: July 4, 2015: marcus_c has written some open source fpga bitstream for spartan based logic16s, and _this_ bitstream does work with this device. However, at this time, binaries are not available. See [1] for the source. Update: September 3, 2015 blight has an alternative open source fpga bitstream. It also works. See [2] for both source and binaries

Protocol

See Saleae Logic16#Protocol.

Resources

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