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The ZEROPLUS probes seem to be custom-made by/for ZEROPLUS and are of similarly good quality, too (only one pin where you can attach, though; most other probe types usually have two).
The ZEROPLUS probes seem to be custom-made by/for ZEROPLUS and are of similarly good quality, too (only one pin where you can attach, though; most other probe types usually have two).


The Pomona Grabber probes seem of similarly good quality (and also have only one pin where you can attach).
Saleae used to deliver EZ-Hooks with the [[Saleae Logic]]; currently at least the [[Saleae Logic16]] comes with a cheaper copy. The [[Link Instruments MSO-19]] comes with the same probes (in different colors).
 
Saleae used to deliver EZ-Hooks with the Logic; currently at least the Logic16 comes with a cheaper copy. The Link Instruments MSO-19 comes with the same probes (in different colors).


<gallery>
<gallery>
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File:Probes tektronix.jpg|<small>Tektronix probe.</small>
File:Probes tektronix.jpg|<small>Tektronix probe.</small>
File:Probes zeroplus.jpg|<small>ZEROPLUS probe.</small>
File:Probes zeroplus.jpg|<small>ZEROPLUS probe.</small>
File:Pomona grabber.jpg|<small>Pomona Grabber probe.</small>
File:Probe-logic16.jpg|<small>Saleae Logic16 probe.</small>
File:Probe-logic16.jpg|<small>Saleae Logic16 probe.</small>
File:Probe-mso19.jpg|<small>Link Instruments MSO19 probe.</small>
File:Probe-mso19.jpg|<small>Link Instruments MSO19 probe.</small>
File:Tpi mc1 probe.jpg|<small>TPI MC1 probe.</small>
File:Probe Rigol front.jpg|<small>Rigol probe (front)</small>
File:Probe Rigol back.jpg|<small>Rigol probe (back)</small>
</gallery>
==== Pomona Grabber ====
The Pomona Grabber probes seem of similarly good quality (and also have only one pin where you can attach).
<gallery>
File:Pomona grabber.jpg|<small>Pomona Grabber probe.</small>
File:Pomona grabber1.jpg|<small>Pomona Grabber, side 1</small>
File:Pomona grabber2.jpg|<small>Pomona Grabber, side 2</small>
</gallery>
</gallery>


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There are of course also various '''higher-end''', special-purpose probes which are '''much more expensive'''. They allow for probing much smaller pitch devices, for example.
There are of course also various '''higher-end''', special-purpose probes which are '''much more expensive'''. They allow for probing much smaller pitch devices, for example.
==== TPI NC1 series ====
The [http://testproductsintl.com Test Products International (TPI)] NC1 is a series of micro test clips.
<gallery>
File:Tpi nc1 probes.jpg|<small>2x NC1B</small>
File:Tpi nc1 left.jpg|<small>NC1B, left</small>
File:Tpi nc1 right.jpg|<small>NC1B, right</small>
</gallery>
'''Where to buy''':
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|-
!Vendor
!Device
!Comments
!Price
|-
| Digikey
| [http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/NC1B/290-1106-ND/299987 TPI NC1B]
| Black
| &euro;7.30
|-
| Digikey
| [http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/NC1BLUE/290-1111-ND/299992 TPI NC1BLUE]
| Blue
| &euro;8.59
|-
| Digikey
| [http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/NC1Y/290-1109-ND/299990 TPI NC1Y]
| Yellow
| &euro;8.59
|-
| Digikey
| [http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/NC1GY/290-1107-ND/299988 TPI NC1GY]
| Gray
| &euro;8.59
|-
| Digikey
| [http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/NC1R/290-1108-ND/299989 TPI NC1R]
| Red
| &euro;8.59
|-
| Digikey
| [http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/NC1G/290-1110-ND/2999919 TPI NC1G]
| Green
| &euro;8.59
|}


==== ElectroPJP 6800 / Pomona 72902 ====
==== ElectroPJP 6800 / Pomona 72902 ====


<gallery>
<gallery>
File:Electro pjp 6800 box.jpg|<small>Box</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 box.jpg|<small>Electro-PJP MS 6800-6, box</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 box open.jpg|<small>Box, open</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 box open.jpg|<small>Box, open</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 box contents.jpg|<small>Box, contents</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 box contents.jpg|<small>Box, contents</small>
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File:Electro pjp 6800 cable3.jpg|<small>Cable 3</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 cable3.jpg|<small>Cable 3</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 holding rod1.jpg|<small>Holding rod 1</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 holding rod1.jpg|<small>Holding rod 1</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 holding rod2.jpg|<small>Holding rod 1</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 holding rod2.jpg|<small>Holding rod 2</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 holding rod3.jpg|<small>Holding rod 1</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 holding rod3.jpg|<small>Holding rod 3</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 probe.jpg|<small>Probe 1</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 probe.jpg|<small>Electro-PJP MS 6800, green</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 probe with cable.jpg|<small>Probe w/ cable</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 probe with cable.jpg|<small>Probe w/ cable</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 gripper.jpg|<small>Gripper</small>
File:Electro pjp 6800 gripper.jpg|<small>Gripper</small>
File:Probes highend.jpg|<small>Probe 2</small>
File:Probes highend.jpg|<small>Electro-PJP MS 6800, red</small>
</gallery>
</gallery>


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| [https://secure.reichelt.de/Bananenstecker-Zwergstecker/CLIP-6800-RT/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=63455;GROUPID=3244;artnr=CLIP+6800+RT Electro-PJP CLIP 6800 RT "Challenger-clip"]
| [https://secure.reichelt.de/Bananenstecker-Zwergstecker/CLIP-6800-RT/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=63455;GROUPID=3244;artnr=CLIP+6800+RT Electro-PJP CLIP 6800 RT "Challenger-clip"]
| One probe, red
| One probe, red
| 6.55&euro;
| &euro;6.55
|-
|-
| Reichelt
| Reichelt
| [https://secure.reichelt.de/Bananenstecker-Zwergstecker/MS-6800-6/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=63475;GROUPID=3244;artnr=MS+6800-6 Electro-PJP MS 6800-6]
| [https://secure.reichelt.de/Bananenstecker-Zwergstecker/MS-6800-6/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=63475;GROUPID=3244;artnr=MS+6800-6 Electro-PJP MS 6800-6]
| Set of 6 probes, ...
| Set of 6 probes, 3 holding rods, 6 cables
| 48.95&euro;
| &euro;48.95
|-
|-
| Reichelt
| Reichelt
| [http://www.reichelt.de/Bananenstecker-Zwergstecker/MS-6800-8/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=2;ARTICLE=63477;GROUPID=3244;artnr=MS+6800-8 Electro-PJP MS 6800-8]
| [http://www.reichelt.de/Bananenstecker-Zwergstecker/MS-6800-8/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=2;ARTICLE=63477;GROUPID=3244;artnr=MS+6800-8 Electro-PJP MS 6800-8]
| Set of 8 probes, ...
| Set of 8 probes, 4 holding rods, 8 cables
| 63.85&euro;
| &euro;63.85
|-
|-
| Reichelt
| Reichelt
| [http://www.reichelt.de/Bananenstecker-Zwergstecker/MS-6800-12/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=2;ARTICLE=63479;GROUPID=3244;artnr=MS+6800-12 Electro-PJP MS 6800-12]
| [http://www.reichelt.de/Bananenstecker-Zwergstecker/MS-6800-12/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=2;ARTICLE=63479;GROUPID=3244;artnr=MS+6800-12 Electro-PJP MS 6800-12]
| Set of 12 probes, ...
| Set of 12 probes, 6 holding rods, 12 cables
| 86.45&euro;
| &euro;86.45


|-
|-
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| [http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/72902-0/501-1172-ND/1196307 Pomona 72902-0]
| [http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/72902-0/501-1172-ND/1196307 Pomona 72902-0]
| One probe, black
| One probe, black
| 11.69&euro;
| &euro;11.69
|-
|-
| Digikey
| Digikey
| [http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/72902-2/501-1173-ND/1196308 Pomona 72902-2]
| [http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/72902-2/501-1173-ND/1196308 Pomona 72902-2]
| One probe, red
| One probe, red
| 11.69&euro;
| &euro;11.69
|-
|-
| Digikey
| Digikey
| [http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/72902/501-1171-ND/1196378 Pomona 72902]
| [http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/72902/501-1171-ND/1196378 Pomona 72902]
| Kit
| Kit
| 179.97&euro;
| &euro;179.97


|}
|}
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<gallery>
<gallery>
File:Ezhook x2015 probes1.jpg|<small>Probes 1</small>
File:Ezhook x2015 probes1.jpg|<small>X2015, probes 1</small>
File:Ezhook x2015 probes2.jpg|<small>Probes 2</small>
File:Ezhook x2015 probes2.jpg|<small>X2015, probes 2</small>
File:Ezhook x2015 black1.jpg|<small>Black 1</small>
File:Ezhook x2015 black1.jpg|<small>X2015, black 1</small>
File:Ezhook x2015 black2.jpg|<small>Black 2</small>
File:Ezhook x2015 black2.jpg|<small>X2015, black 2</small>
File:Ezhook x2015 red1.jpg|<small>Red 1</small>
File:Ezhook x2015 red1.jpg|<small>X2015, red 1</small>
File:Ezhook x2015 red2.jpg|<small>Red 2</small>
File:Ezhook x2015 red2.jpg|<small>X2015, red 2</small>
File:Ezhook x2015 gripper.jpg|<small>Gripper</small>
File:Ezhook x2015 gripper.jpg|<small>Gripper</small>
</gallery>
</gallery>
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<gallery>
<gallery>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s package.jpg|<small>Package</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s package.jpg|<small>Package</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s probes and cables1.jpg|<small>Probes, cables 1</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s probes and cables1.jpg|<small>Probes + cables</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s probes and cables2.jpg|<small>Probes, cables 2</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s probes and cables2.jpg|<small>Probes + attached cables</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s cable.jpg|<small>Cable</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s cable.jpg|<small>Cable</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s blue1.jpg|<small>Blue 1</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s blue1.jpg|<small>ChipQuik SMDFP-2S-2</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s blue2.jpg|<small>Blue 2</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s blue2.jpg|<small>ChipQuik SMDFP-2S-2</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s blue3.jpg|<small>Blue 3</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s blue3.jpg|<small>ChipQuik SMDFP-2S-2</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s yellow1.jpg|<small>Yellow 1</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s yellow1.jpg|<small>ChipQuik SMDFP-2S-2</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s yellow2.jpg|<small>Yellow 2</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s yellow2.jpg|<small>ChipQuik SMDFP-2S-2</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s yellow3.jpg|<small>Yellow 3</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s yellow3.jpg|<small>ChipQuik SMDFP-2S-2</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s attached1.jpg|<small>Attached 1</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s attached1.jpg|<small>Attached 1</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s attached2.jpg|<small>Attached 2</small>
File:Mechano japan fp 2s attached2.jpg|<small>Attached 2</small>
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|}
|}
==== Mechano Japan FP-5 (FP-2B) ====
The [http://www.mechano.co.jp/products-img/pmc-cl.html Mechano Japan FP-5] (a.k.a FP-2B) micro test clips (microgrippers) are suitable for ICs with a pitch of 1.00mm&mdash;0.30mm. They're available from various vendors under different names.
<gallery>
File:Mechano FP-5.jpg|<small>FP-5</small>
File:Mechano FP-2S and FP-5.jpg|<small>FP-2S and FP-5, front</small>
File:Mechano FP-2S and FP-5 back.jpg|<small>FP-2S and FP-5, back</small>
File:Mechano FP-2S and FP-5 grabbers.jpg|<small>FP-2S and FP-5, grabbers</small>
</gallery>
=== Probe comparison ===
<gallery perrow="3">
File:Probe comparison cheap2 1.jpg|<small>Cheap #2</small>
File:Probe comparison cheap2 2.jpg|<small>Cheap #2</small>
File:Probe comparison cheap2 3.jpg|<small>Cheap #2</small>
File:Probe comparison ezhook xkm 1.jpg|<small>E-Z-Hook XKM</small>
File:Probe comparison ezhook xkm 2.jpg|<small>E-Z-Hook XKM</small>
File:Probe comparison ezhook xkm 3.jpg|<small>E-Z-Hook XKM</small>
File:Probe comparison electropjp 6800 1.jpg|<small>ElectroPJP 6800</small>
File:Probe comparison electropjp 6800 2.jpg|<small>ElectroPJP 6800</small>
File:Probe comparison electropjp 6800 3.jpg|<small>ElectroPJP 6800</small>
File:Probe comparison ezhook x2015 1.jpg|<small>E-Z-Hook X2015</small>
File:Probe comparison ezhook x2015 2.jpg|<small>E-Z-Hook X2015</small>
File:Probe comparison ezhook x2015 3.jpg|<small>E-Z-Hook X2015</small>
</gallery>
== Logic analyzer adapters ==
Attaching "normal" logic analyzer probes directly to the system you want to analyze is not always the easiest method. For specific use-cases there are also special "sniffer" or "breakout" boards that can be used.
=== Micro SD sniffer ===
<gallery>
File:Sparkfun microsd sniffer top.jpg
File:Sparkfun microsd sniffer bottom.jpg
</gallery>
=== SD sniffer ===
<gallery>
File:Sparkfun sd sniffer top.jpg
File:Sparkfun sd sniffer bottom.jpg
</gallery>
<gallery>
File:Zeroplus sd sniffer package.jpg
File:Zeroplus sd sniffer manual.jpg
File:Zeroplus sd sniffer top.jpg
File:Zeroplus sd sniffer bottom.jpg
</gallery>
=== USB sniffer ===
<gallery>
File:Zeroplus usb sniffer package.jpg
File:Zeroplus usb sniffer manual.jpg
File:Zeroplus usb sniffer top.jpg
File:Zeroplus usb sniffer bottom.jpg
</gallery>
=== PCI sniffer ===
<gallery>
File:Zeroplus pci sniffer top.jpg
File:Zeroplus pci sniffer side.jpg
</gallery>
=== Nintendo Wii Nunchuk sniffer ===
<gallery>
File:Solarbotics nunchuk adapter top.jpg
File:Solarbotics nunchuk adapter bottom.jpg
</gallery>
<gallery>
File:Flamingoeda wiichuck adapter top.jpg
File:Flamingoeda wiichuck adapter bottom.jpg
</gallery>


== Oscilloscope probes ==
== Oscilloscope probes ==
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Revision as of 20:12, 9 January 2015

Probe collection.

Logic analyzer probes

There are many logic analyzer probes of varying quality and price on the market (see photo for a small subset).

Low-end probes

There are various simple and cheap logic analyzer probes available from various sources. Some logic analyzers are also shipped with this kind of probes out of the box.

They're generally not recommended, if you can avoid them. They're usually of low quality, break/bend/fail relatively quickly, and cannot be easily used to probe finer-pitch devices/pins. Probes 1 and 2 (see photos) also have the additional disadvantage that they're hardwired/soldered directly to a custom logic analyzer cable, which means they cannot be easily replaced, swapped, or removed and used for other purposes (which is possible with the other probes). See below for better alternatives.

Sometimes you can also replace the probes shipped with your device by a better-quality cable/probe set, e.g. in the case of the RockyLogic Ant8 probe cable (see photos).

Quality probes

The better-quality (and minimum recommended, in our opinion) probe type is the EZ-Hook. This type of probe is of sufficient quality, doesn't break too easily, and the grabber is small enough to probe most fine-pitch devices one usually encounters in day-to-day probing.

The Agilent probes (shipped with some Agilent oscilloscopes with integrated logic analyzer) seem to be exactly the same as the EZ-Hooks. They're probably merely rebranded for Agilent (just a guess).

The Tektronix probes are different, but of similarly good quality as the EZ-Hooks.

The ZEROPLUS probes seem to be custom-made by/for ZEROPLUS and are of similarly good quality, too (only one pin where you can attach, though; most other probe types usually have two).

Saleae used to deliver EZ-Hooks with the Saleae Logic; currently at least the Saleae Logic16 comes with a cheaper copy. The Link Instruments MSO-19 comes with the same probes (in different colors).

Pomona Grabber

The Pomona Grabber probes seem of similarly good quality (and also have only one pin where you can attach).

High-end probes

There are of course also various higher-end, special-purpose probes which are much more expensive. They allow for probing much smaller pitch devices, for example.

TPI NC1 series

The Test Products International (TPI) NC1 is a series of micro test clips.

Where to buy:

Vendor Device Comments Price
Digikey TPI NC1B Black €7.30
Digikey TPI NC1BLUE Blue €8.59
Digikey TPI NC1Y Yellow €8.59
Digikey TPI NC1GY Gray €8.59
Digikey TPI NC1R Red €8.59
Digikey TPI NC1G Green €8.59

ElectroPJP 6800 / Pomona 72902

Products:

Where to buy:

Vendor Device Comments Price
Reichelt Electro-PJP CLIP 6800 RT "Challenger-clip" One probe, red €6.55
Reichelt Electro-PJP MS 6800-6 Set of 6 probes, 3 holding rods, 6 cables €48.95
Reichelt Electro-PJP MS 6800-8 Set of 8 probes, 4 holding rods, 8 cables €63.85
Reichelt Electro-PJP MS 6800-12 Set of 12 probes, 6 holding rods, 12 cables €86.45
Digikey Pomona 72902-0 One probe, black €11.69
Digikey Pomona 72902-2 One probe, red €11.69
Digikey Pomona 72902 Kit €179.97

E-Z-Hook X2015

The E-Z-Hook X2015 micro double-hook.

Mechano Japan FP-2S

The Mechano Japan FP-2S micro test clips (microgrippers) are suitable for ICs with a pitch of 0.50mm—0.20mm. They're available from various vendors under different names.

Vendor Device Comments Price
ChipQuik ChipQuik Microgripper FP-2S-2 2 micro-grippers, 2 wires. $79.00
Digikey ChipQuik SMDFP-2S-2 2 micro-grippers, 2 wires. Datasheet. €80.56
Distrelec PMK FP-2S-2 2 micro-grippers, 2 wires. Datasheet. €90.28
Emulation Technology Emulation Technology MicroGripper FP-2S-2 2 micro-grippers, 2 wires. Datasheet. $74.72
PEWA PMK FP-2S-2 QFP IC-Clip 2 micro-grippers, 2 wires. Datasheet. €73.00
PMK PMK SMDFP-2S-2 2 micro-grippers, 2 wires €80.56

Mechano Japan FP-5 (FP-2B)

The Mechano Japan FP-5 (a.k.a FP-2B) micro test clips (microgrippers) are suitable for ICs with a pitch of 1.00mm—0.30mm. They're available from various vendors under different names.

Probe comparison

Logic analyzer adapters

Attaching "normal" logic analyzer probes directly to the system you want to analyze is not always the easiest method. For specific use-cases there are also special "sniffer" or "breakout" boards that can be used.

Micro SD sniffer

SD sniffer

USB sniffer

PCI sniffer

Nintendo Wii Nunchuk sniffer

Oscilloscope probes

Low-end probes

There are various cheap oscilloscope probes which are shipped with many PC/USB oscilloscopes and also some standalone bench scopes.

The two major manufacturers seem to be:

TODO: Photos